Train Up A Child by Ludo | Oct 7, 2015 | Streaming Audio | 5 comments TUC_01TUC_02TUC_03TUC_04TUC_05TUC_06TUC_07TUC_08TUC_09TUC_10TUC_11TUC_12TUC_13TUC_14 5 Comments Concern@person on October 27, 2020 at 1:42 am Is there blessing in helping God’s work (such as a organization ministry) without the spouse knowing it? Ludo on October 28, 2020 at 1:59 pm I don’t know who you are, but I would answer your question with my question: What would be the reason your spouse not knowing about it? Ludo Alexandr on December 18, 2020 at 2:47 pm Hi can you help me how to understend ? “when you suffer your children to wander about, and suffer them to play upon the Sabbath, God looks upon you as Sabbath-breakers” RH September 19, 1854, par. 10″ When “Christ watched children at their play, and often expressed His approval when they gained an innocent victory over something they were determined to do. ” Upward Look, p. 57 As Christians, we should each day become more like Him of whom it is said: “… the children at play in their in-nocent joy, …all were happier for His presence. .”—The Desire of Ages, p. 74. Ludo on December 19, 2020 at 7:28 pm Thank you, dear Alexandr, For your question. If I understand your dilemma right, the question would be: what could be considered as “innocent play” for our little ones and what would God consider as “Sabbath-breaking plays”? Did I get it right? Looking at your three quotes the one condemning “play” has an additional explanation: we break Sabbath when we suffer our children to “wonder about”. Let’s develop it: there are innocent games where children are engaged and they are developing their skills – like building something simple, some creative things, like painting, collecting or observing some things in nature… Then, there are competitive games we certainly would avoid, even during the week. Now, to suffer our children to “wonder about” seems as if they are bored and have nothing meaningful to do. And the guilt is placed not on children but rather on their parents. We see it so often – parents don’t take time to think through some meaningful activities for their children before the Sabbath and they end up playing with their phones. Angels are terrified at such neglect. Does it help you to see the difference? We want to be playful and give active moments for our children, their energy level is much higher than ours, we need to respect that. But we don’t want to come in a last-minute not having any pre-thought ideas for innocent activities because often adults talk about their things and leave children on their own, which obviously ends up in running, chasing each other or doing things obviously having nothing to do with Sabbath day. Your middle quote is precious: “Christ watched children at their play and often expressed His approval when they gained an innocent victory over something they were determined to do. ” I am not sure if this quote is specifically about Sabbath plays or rather a general situation on any day of the week. “Gaining victory over something” might be in a positive context as we all need to overcome some bad inclinations and be determined to achieve some goals. As we read, Jesus approves that. I am sure this is not referring to any competitive gains. Please let me know if this makes any sense for you or if this can trigger some suggestions from other parents coming to this page. THANK YOU IN ADVANCE. Our children deserve and need to have nicest memories on their Sabbaths spent with their family. Alexandr on December 21, 2020 at 4:08 pm Thanks for good observation and response and for your time ! “The idea is not so much one of prohibition, but of giving time for sacred themes, time for God. We should not engage in business, in secular employment, in frivolous conversation. The subject of children is introduced here since it seems to clarify the question of what is delight in the intention of God’s plans for the Sabbath. This leads us to consider the time objective of Sabbathkeeping. The hedonists believe the great objective of life is satisfaction or “pleasure.” It is easy to see that with such a philosophy the Sabbath would be a pleasure day. That is exactly what Sunday became in the early centuries with the blending of Christianity with paganism. It was part of the great apostasy” THE YOUTH’S INSTRUCTOR October 1, 1968 by W. JOHN CANNON, Ph.D yes there are innocent games but it is unclear if it is all play on the sabbat that are prohibited or not stil in doubts “Parents, above every thing, take care of your children upon the Sabbath. Do not suffer them to violate God’s holy day by playing in the house or out of doors” RH September 19, 1854, par. 10 Sabbath= Education =Sacrifice . “—The value of the Sabbath as a means of education is beyond estimate. Whatever of ours God claims from us, He returns again, enriched, transfigured, with His own glory…. CG 535.2 Sacrifice ….. It is an essential part of education. Sacrifice must become habitual in all our character building in this life if we would have a building not made with hands, eternal in the heavens. 6T 214.1 It becomes clear that the Sabbath becomes a matter of education and sacrifice . It is part of the preparation for heaven. “Those who have trained the mind to delight in spiritual exercises are the ones who can be translated and not be overwhelmed with the purity and transcendent glory of heaven CCh 186.3.” what are your thoughts on theth !? thank you !